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What the bleep

Review of "What the (Bleep) Do We Know!?" which demonstrates that, as it turns out, the film was created as propaganda for the cult of Ramtha.

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sixteenbynine
Mar. 30th, 2007 03:04 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, yes. "The Secret" is no better, and I've been considering my own hatchet job (although some other folks have done far better than I could).
aekiy
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:19 pm (UTC)
Haven't come across "The Secret" before, or even heard of it that I can recall (then again, it's a pretty generic name). Your own hatchet job? IE, a critical review of "The Secret?"
lyssabard
Mar. 30th, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
Stuff like this is why I don't like the idea of mixing science with Magic, as if the former validates the latter. Each has a different way of modeling the universe.
aekiy
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:17 pm (UTC)
Disagreed on that point. There are many different models of both scientific theory and magical practice and there are many point as which these things can intersect; it just shouldn't be assumed for the purposes of science that unquantifiable interpretations of scientific theory somehow prove mystical paradigms. But it can be assumed for the sake of magical experimentation (provided it doesn't outright contradict science, such as carelessly tossing away needed prescription medication).
lyssabard
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
it just shouldn't be assumed for the purposes of science that unquantifiable interpretations of scientific theory somehow prove mystical paradigms.

Absolutely and closer to what I wanted to say. While I think they can intersect at some points, for the most part, I tend to keep them for different uses--the magical is more a tool of the spiritual, for me. In matters of healing, I go to science first, and then to something like reiki to finish the job, as it were. They work best in conjunction--but you won't find me giving my up pain meds for reiki alone. (It isn't that effective for me, meaning, i am nust cured of glaucoma, for instance, but my tension headaches are vastly reduced, probably for a number of reasons.)

U get worried, though--with myself included--when one mindset must be absolute over the other.

aekiy
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
:noddle: Agreed there. (^*^) I was just thinking the other night about these things; how Reiki and such work as a nice accent to medical healing, and can even replace certain minor medical bits (IE, as opposed to taking ibuprofen for a typical headache), but doesn't come close to actually replacing medicine, and shouldn't even be considered as such. As long as we're in the world of biology, may as well listen to the biologists and use the other stuff as boosters.
sixteenbynine
Mar. 30th, 2007 05:10 pm (UTC)
If you want to know what Mars is like, don't ask an astrologer.

If you want to know what your soul is like, don't ask an astronomer.

(Ask a neurologist.)
aekiy
Mar. 30th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
hee.. although I'm pretty sure they'd be useless on that one, unless the soul really is located between the thalamus and the hypothalamus as some have said. (^*^)'
rhiannasilel
Mar. 31st, 2007 12:59 am (UTC)
I don't think it's a problem combining science and magic so long as you can keep grounded about it and not try to bend either around the other so everything fits in a nice safe box. I'm not saying that's always easy to do, but it can be done.
podisodd
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:01 pm (UTC)
Scary
aekiy
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:20 pm (UTC)
ya.. I thought it was fun and curious while I watched it, though some of the people in it (namely, as it turns out, "Rathma" her/himself) seemed arrogant and the whole thing was not well grounded in science. I hadn't actually been aware of these Rathma people before..
kitten_goddess
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
Surprise, surprise! The movie was rather pointless to begin with, rehashing the same old stuff that any magickian or pagan would know already. Then came the pitch for J.Z. Knight, who is known to be a con artist. Thanks for explaining that bit!
aekiy
Mar. 30th, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC)
Sure thing. I actually hadn't been familiar with Knight/Rathma before this.
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