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The love of war

People across the 'united states' are joyously gathering to face off against those whose stance is in opposition to their own. They carry signs either for or against homosexual union, shouting to the opposition "Jesus Christ" or "Equal Rights", while some were once under the impression that those two were the joined.

Aside from the obviousness that religion should never be used as a foundation for any such legal action, and the equally obvious fact that this has never kept people from doing so anyway.. am a little lost, still. Someone please point out to me the biblical passage which states "A man shall not become wed to a man, nor woman to woman." Or whatever equally relevant statement.

Please note those words: equally relevant. A small passage stating that 'a man shall not lay with a man as he would a woman' is not relevant to the topic of same-sex marriage, only to the topic of sexual relations (or so is assumed). (Again we disregard the issue of religion's total lack of relevance to these issues from a legal standpoint.)

People making so many assumptions.. based on such a ridiculous notion of a passage which suggests that while gay sex is a sin, lesbian sex is okay, not to mention sodomy--as long as it's with a woman, and not between too men. Ever stop to think that maybe the point of the passage was simply the fact that lust is the sin, not the love of a man for a man, and that anal sex is just unhealthy for you, and not what the orifice was meant for?

Y'know.. can't stand being judgmental in any sense. But why are people so stupid? Who the **** does it hurt? Where is the harm in two people of the same sex expressing their love for each other by the union of marriage, and receiving the same legal benefits as those of opposite sex sharing the same union? What the **** is wrong with you religious fanatics? Why do you find peace in war? Why do you love to hate so much? Why the **** can't you live by the principles of your own damn religious texts?


PS--I'm sorry.. just, can't stand watching the world that people make for themselves.. mrr


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Mar. 29th, 2004 02:02 pm (UTC)
And it still amazes me..
I've found that our world starts this crap about religion mixing with sexuality to hide our true issues. As we know it, our so-called perfect life-style that some people seem to believe we have, is falling apart in front of our eyes.

It's pathetic though, all this crap about sexuality happened close to overnight, if you don't pay attention to the news, as most of us don't.

But that's just my opinion.

Try and cheer up. Take my advice, tell the world to **** off and go on with your daily business. Or laugh at them, whichever.

I've come to the conclusion that we are all screwed.

Mar. 29th, 2004 02:30 pm (UTC)
I don't remember where it says it in the Bible, but it does say something against homosexual relations. My mom knows, I'd have to ask her. Also I think it was Saint Agustin? who made all the rules about sodomy and the rules of sexuality. Although before he became a priest, he was very promiscuous. Hypocrisy in the Catholic church is a wonderful thing, yes?

But anyway, yes you're right. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with legalities. Remember seperation of church and state? A lot of people are screaming that homosexuality goes against religious tradition of the country, but the country was founded by Protestants and there is no centralized Protestant teachings unlike the Catholics. So, if there's no universal Protestant rules, then how can people claim that homosexual marriage goes against religious tradition? The different sects of Protestantism say different things about homosexuality. And if God loves everyone, wouldn't he love the homosexuals too? Again, gotta love hypocrisy.

But on the legal aspect of it, to make laws against homosexual marriage would be unconstitutional, yet they're not allowed to wed. Go figure? But Bush's proposal to amend the constitution defining marriage as a union between a woman and a man will never go through. Three fourths of the Senate and three fourths of the House have to agree on the same thing, word for word down to the comma before it can be passed. And that will take years just to be debated before its even voted on. Bush defiantly won't be in office by time its voted on, even if he is reelected. I thought that he was really ballsy for proposing that so close to elections. What a stupid man.
Mar. 29th, 2004 02:46 pm (UTC)
S'true.. but still, individual states are working on outlawing homosexual marriage, too. Which state was it.. MS? Anywho.. they're voting on outlawing marriage in lieu of 'civil unions', which of course doesn't give people the same benefits.

In fact, the only benefits am aware of is that civil unions are included in the forms of legal unions (like spouses and children) that can receive things like secondary medical benefits from their (spouse, parent, etc.).

It's just all so rediculous.. people are so arrogant as to think that only they are deserving of God's love and their country's recognition. mrar..
Mar. 29th, 2004 05:40 pm (UTC)
I agree. Muchly.
Mar. 30th, 2004 10:15 am (UTC)
::Sigh:: I... Don't really like just saying things. I'm always afraid someone will point back at me and say I'm stupid. I'm really not the best person to ask. But I do have answers for all of the above. ANd If you really want to know more of how we think I can type in letters from the Bishops and Even the Pope on these things. I have stuff from our Catholic Newspaper which is regional. I could send you clippings from that even.

From a catholic aspect... We believe that it is bad for the fact that you take away the reason for why God made us. There is no natural procreation which was one of the main parts of who we are. We are brought into this world to praise God and to populate the earth. Also, that that kind of sex is a sin period because it is self serving. Its why masterbation and stuff is considered a sin and a wrong doing. But it all ties back to the main point of what I said. And that in itself is in the bible. There is much much more to it than that but I'm not in all knowing. That is the basis for Catholics anyways. The smaller of some of the basis' so i've heard. But its something.

And You want the truth. Many Catholics before they converted went down the path of being with prostitutes and being well to do and many were pagans. Those that started out the worst, many of them became our Doctors of the Chruch. Sounds odd no? But I don't think it is. They went down this path of everything they wanted. And then once they came to know God they went to a bath of self denial. They did everything for God and nothing for themselves. Those people then took vows not to have sex and vows of poverty to give up -everything- they might have. It was a giving of everything that serves oneself...

anyways I'm shutting up there... Sorry.
Mar. 30th, 2004 12:18 pm (UTC)
You didn't answer any of my questions.. This topic has nothing to do with sex as in sexual relations. The topic is marriage. What philosophy is there behind restricting marriage? Behind restricting the celebration of two people in love, no matter what sex--male or female?

Marriage has nothing to do with sex. People either will have sex, or won't, regardless of wether or not they're married. And sodomy is something that people will or won't do of their own accord regardless off marriage, or regardless of which sex they are. In the average marriage, sexual activity actually declines. So again, when bringing up marriage, don't bring up sex. It's totally irrelevant.
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